Michelle Bachman’s Entangling Alliance

I haven’t changed my opinion of Michelle Bachman but I sure have changed my opinion of you.

We need more people just like Michele. Go for it, Lady, and show them how’s it’s done !!
A Wyoming Supporter. 

If you dont stand with Israel, I must certainly conclude you do stand with radical muslims.   In my 50+ years I have seen muslims blow up people all over the globe….I dont recall seeing Israelis travel the globe to blow up innocent people.

I have to agree with Ken.  My opinion of you just went down.  Christians especially are called to support Israel.  Even some athiests realize the importance of supporting Israel. 

Mr. Gregory,You couldn’t be more wrong in the last paragraph! I highly recommend you spend some SERIOUS time in the Federalist Papers to see how wrong you are. The best book out now is “The Original Argument” by Glen Beck and Joshua Charles.

Well spoken Mr. Gregory.  We can be an ally of Israel but we must first proceed with a foreign policy that places the welfare of this country first and our allies second.  What is good for Israel is not necessarily good for the United States.  Or have we forgotten what happened to the U.S.S. Liberty and the number of Israelis rounded up after Sept.11, 2001? Let us not allow the tail to wag the dog.

Isn’t there a difference between what a tiny country of thirteen states does and what the principle superpower of the world with the international reserve country must do?

You are right. Why should an American federal candidate offer so much loyalty to a foreign power?Because AIPAC controls congress,our banks,media,educational institutions and more. They are in the same place as in prewar Germany only in the USA. They didn’t learn from Germany so here we are…again. Israel is not our ally, but our enemy from within. Bachman is dead in the water. Jim

Mr. Gregory, with appropriate acceptance that we aech have a full right to a view or posture relative to any person or arguement, I take full exception to your article and disagree with your entire premise. It is both erroneous and simply wrong to proclaim Ms. Bachmanns position on Israel is without a basis of merit and strive to point to the founders views as a firm underpinning of your article. Clearly, you hold no appreciation for a alliance exceeding half a century, with an ally perhaps more vigorous and supportive of American ideals and principles than most others, even Britain. Can you sincerely question the validity of the view that without Israel, we would in truth have NO ALLY in the entire middle eastern region. Further, without this ally, we would have no political, economic, military presence in a region which holds a massive national security interest for us, namely crude oil, as well as a mirrored image with Israel reflecting our foreign policies, our democratic principles which you cannot say any other country in the entire region has any comparison to. There isn’t any doubt that without Israel’s existence, the West would face catastrophic circumstances having absolutely nothing to do with your concern of FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS. I haven’t any doubt that our first 5 Presidents would without question, hold Israel as a valued ally, never once questioning any of the issues your article attempts to utilize as fodder to justify your viewpoint. America is GREAT SATAN with Israel LITTLE SATAN. Should little satan be destroyed or driven into the sea, as almost every country in the entire region now supports as a viable posture, it is inconceivable you would draft this article, at this time, without a wit of logic nor common sense when our ally faces without arguement, their most serious national security threat ever in my view.America must stand with Israel now more than at any time in her 60+ yr history because it is a joint threat with both Israel and America in the driect sights of the radical Islamists now creating a firestorm all across the middle east and Northern Africa as well. Their singular goal a Calophate, A unified Islamist Koran ruled union of borderless countries all aligned against both Israel and America. Our founders indeed stood against foreign entanglements but would have clearly recognized the difference between an ally such as Israel versus all others, especially in view of world events. Assuming you are a student of our founding, you most certainly also can well understand that this Republic was founded upon JUDEA-CHRISTIAN principles ergo, Jewish/Christian principles both firm believers in God, Divine Providence and your views that Ms. Bachmann is wrong to speak to Christain Americans willingly supporting a Jewish state is in this writer view, not only in error but even your premise is outlandish and ill conceived, in fact patently inappropriate and off base. her point is simply that Israel is a valued ally and being our sole ally in this blazing region with so much at stqke we need israel perhaps jsut as much as Israel nees us to support her in this most dangerous of times. I find ultimately your article not only obnoxious in content, completely unjustified and flat out wrong. Other than those points you are welcome to embarrass yourself further at any time. F. Michael Russo Jr.

“Christians especially are called to support Israel. ”
please back up this statement.

I’m curious why Christians get all wound up over Israel. Jews rejected Christ and sold him out to the Romans who killed him. The whole basis of Christianity is the belief that  Jesus is God, correct? Which goes against what the Jews believe to this day. In Christianity If you don’t believe in Jesus then you go to hell ? So if you follow Christian theology since Jews don’t believe in Jesus then they’re all going to hell anyways, right? I could never understand why Christians fall all over themselves to support Israel. Feel free to enlighten me…

I say cut off all foreign aid. We’ve got our own problems. If you feel compelled to help Israel or any other country for that matter feel free to mail them a check.

I agree completely. The Israeli lobby here has total control of our press, entertainment and financial industries. They spy on us, steal our technology and for all that we give them $3 billion a year in foreign aid and fight their wars for them. Do you think Muslims hate us because we have a Constitution, a Super Bowl? That is idiotic. They hate us because we are Israel’s meat puppet and stand by them while they oppress men, women and children in the Palestinian slums. Turn off the voice of the Israeli lobby (Fox News) and try doing some research if you think otherwise. As long as we support Israel with NO questions asked we will have eternal war. And that’s just fine with the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about.

Glen Beck? Are you serious? This dangerous demagogue urges his viewers to support the Chamber of Commerce because ‘they are us’.  Right. That explains why the CoC fights every attempt to use E Verify and has fought every attempt to crack down on illegal immigration and secure the border. Wake up sheeple.

Biblically we as a nation must stand with Israel. God help us if we don’t. I don’t understand why people are so against Israel.  The Bible says ”I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who cures you, and in you all the familieis of the earth shall be blessed.”Genesis 12:3. 

Maybe if you read or understood what the BIBLE says, you would agree with her; however the BIBLE states clearly that ALL nations will rise up against Israel.

My philosophy can be summarized simplest by these five quotes:

“God gave us reason, not religion.” – Slogan of the World Union of Deists

“Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.” – Thomas Paine

“Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.” – John Dalberg-Acton

“Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind.” – John F. Kennedy

“I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas.” – Ron Paul

F. Michael Russo Jr. writes:

“Can you sincerely question the validity of the view that without Israel, we would in truth have NO ALLY in the entire middle eastern region.”

As has been endlessly pointed out, the U.S. had no enemies in the Mideast before the formation of the religion-based nation of Israel in 1948. (Unlike Britain and France, which had a long history of imperialism in the Mideast.) 

Since then, thanks to the U.S.’s domestic politics-based “commitment” to the Israeli regime (which seized territory which had been predominantly Muslim and Christian for many centuries), and the U.S.’s CIA-directed violent overthrow of anti-Israel governments, and the bribery and military backing for U.S./Israel-compliant regimes in the Mideast, the overwhelming attitude in the Mideast is one of hostility to the U.S.

Thanks to our pseudo-alliance with the Israeli regime, and related U.S. imperialism in the Mideast, we’ve made a vast array of enemies. Your solution is to redouble what got us into this mess in the first place.

Well wrtitten and elequently phrased but you sincerely miss the point I posit. I purposely never once spoke of our far worse than foolish decisions which are indefensible regarding political choices to support tyrants in the region. Further, if memory serves me and I tout no bibical scholarly skill, was it not once Israeli lands? Certainly dependent upon which century or millium one chooses, it was built, destroyed, overwhelmed, conquered, rebuilt many times. To your point, would not the ignorantly guided British be held in contempt for sectioning what was originally Israel allocating such a tiny piece for these hapless people who were the surely the whipping post of the entire world, perhaps you’ll say deservedly so but I stray. Why were they allocated such a fragment yet the Palestinians provided no land. Why is Jordan so immense with nothing at all offered to them? There isn’t any doubt in my mind that the Jewish people have always been the hated dedicated enemy of all Arabs and certainly all Muslims since time immemorial. Do you mean to say that you personally choose to not acknowledge their right to exist? Your words I think betray your posture. I offer that they do have an honorable right to exist. I also submit they have been good stewards of the holy city were Muslims who reside within Israel are openly supportive and do not wish Israel destroyed or the Jewish people exterminated outrightly which is the declared charter of the Hamas and Palestinians no question. Why is it that you wish to trun your back upon Israel when it was Britian or the United States who helped create this entire issue. I cannot state nor will that we have done good and proper things regarding the middle east. I say we have done great errors. However, you certainly cannot argue that anthing would hve been better nor different had we not installed those terrible dictators. Look upon today, are you pleased that radicals are overtaking Egypt along with many others presently up for grabs. Can you honestly state that the so called freedom those people have struggled, rioted and yearned for will be fruitful when they are ruled by the iron fist of radical islamist theocracy? How is it that these Jews deserve destruction and the false claims for democracy by the Arab spring will mostly seek to congeal the surrounding of Israel by radicals who desrie nothing other than their death? Do you openly wish to state that if the destruction of Israel occurs that the next focused objective is America? Are you also prepared to abandon our Republic? Will you kneel and profess your conversion to Islam or if not willing face death? I for one will not and I suggest that you decide to render the past to what it is the past, unchangeable, irrevocable. Fast forward to the present, are you so dedicated to punishing teh Jews such that you think it appropriate to allow them to be exterminated, that such an event will actually end the turmiol or anger or radicalism in the region? Will America be removed from the list of enemies of Islam? I say no to all if it. I say I cannot fix the past but I will never allow an entire race to be persecuted as they once were ever again. It has little to do with religion, nothing to do with politics but everyting to do about defending any countries right to exist. What do you say if is offer the alternative of why not instead demand Jordan give up adequate lands for teh Palestinians? Where are those demands? Are not the Jordainans Muslim? Will they not provide lands for their brethern? No that hasn’t ever been promoted or even considered and will as I trust you know ever will be mentioned. Why is that? Simple, this has nothing to do at all never did with Israel being an oppressor but rather everything about killing all Jews and creating an enviroment, a Calophate no doubt aggregating massive numbers of people and military strength with the sole intent of destroying Israel with absoutely nothing to do with assuring that Palestine be afforded lands in the region. Were that the goal, there are widespread uninhabited regions which could easily accomodate all of them. I support Israel precisely because of individuals like you who are convinced otherwise, ill informed, bear an agenda of hate, seek to satisfy an ill conceived compassion founded upon an illicit premise and fostered by mis-speak, lies and deception. I defend Israel primarily because it is inherently the right thing to do. If Israel falls we are the next target and mark my words, if you cannot see this reality you are not blind but you indeed are sadly foolsih and cannot be salvaged. I will not defend my posture any further than this for if I have failed your convincement at this point you are arrogantly unwilling to open your eyes and mind to these simple truths. Sincerely but finally offered, F. Michael Russo Jr.

If you did your research you wouldn’t find radical muslims doing that either – you’d find people who are oppressed and happen to be muslim defending themselves.  Oh? You were talking about 9/11?  Well that was obviously an inside job.  If you aren’t at the point in your awakening where you understand and believe that – well then may god help you.  Good luck.

That has to be the most backward logic I have ever heard in my life.

That’s just as bizarre as saying “If you don’t stand with Israel, then you like to torture puppies.”

This fear-mongering must end and we must withdraw all foreign aid from EVERY country if America is to have even the slightest possibility of surviving.

Ken, why has your opinion of John changed? Is it because he is upholding true conservative positions?

We already have enough NEO-CONSERVATIVES running…

You don’t seem to like paragraph breaks.

Yes, thousands of years ago Palestine was ruled by Jews and its population was predominantly Jewish. Thousands — actually, just a few hundred years ago — the territory of the United States, as well as the rest of the Americas, was held by Native American pagans. Classical Greece was ruled and occupied by pagans of the ancient Greek persuasion, who worshipped Zeus, Athena etc. Ancient Egypt was ruled and occupied by pagans who worshipped Osiris, Isis etc. Not much more than a thousand years ago Scandinavia and what we’d now call northern Germany was ruled and occupied by pagans who worshipped Odin, Thor etc. The British Isles used to be ruled and occupied by Celtic pagans.

By your reckoning, the U.S. — which apparently is justified in intervening in every situation where you think there’s a just cause — ought to launch an invasion of Greece, drive out the natives, and replace them with classical Greek pagans. (Yes, there are actually a few people — generally not in Greece itself — who follow old Greek paganism.) All those not following the ancient Native American religions should be driven out of the Americas. Let’s drive the Muslims and Christians out of Egypt and replace them with followers of the pharoah religion. And so on.

What you’re talking about is nutty (not to mention murderous and thieving). Latter-day Jews — most of whom had little or no ancestry attributable to ancient Judea, by the way — had no business stealing land away from the longtime inhabitants of the area. (Something which was consciously planned by the Zionist aggressors.) And the U.S. has no business in the Mideast, except that now it has many enemies thanks to its imperialist aggressions there.

By the way, there’s been very little Muslim terrorism against the West. Nearly all such terrorism has been secretly faked (“false flag actions,” in technical jargon) by Israel and the U.S. regime in D.C.

Well Your argument is flawed to begin with. He was just saying that the land was Jewish until Roman Emperor Titus started the diaspora of the Jews so that they could not rebel and they can be reintegrated to the Roman Society.

Leave the Jews alone since the Palestinian in Gaza Strip was originally Egypt’s territory so why not they go to Egypt? Besides, Jewish territory was actually smaller than it was today but thanks to Arab foolishness, expanded to what it is today.

Israel did not start the war it was the Arabs who declared the war supported by the Soviet Union, who else then will help Israel being invaded at all sides by Arabs with USSR backing?

Surely the job falls to the free world, hence the US stepped in by granting the Israeli the means to defend themselves. It did not send in soldiers to fight for the Jewish merely giving Israel the means to fight the overwhelming odds against it.

Be it Divine Intervention or just plane luck the Jewish beat the combines Arab Armies and hence captured Jerusalem, Golan Heights, and Gaza Strip.

In Essence the Arabs lost why not return to their countries? Instead they choose to stay and therefore willingly acknowledge the Israeli as their overlords.

Oh, Roman Emperor Titus drove the Jews out of the Roman colony around 50 A.D., so now contemporary Jews, many of whom are descendents of converts to Judaism like the Khazars, are entitled to throw out the longtime inhabitants of Palestine. 

Heck, the Romans and various Lowland Germans threw the Brythonic Celts out of England, so let’s kick the English out of England and replace them with Brythonic Celts from Wales and Brittany. Those Englishmen can just move back to northern Germany where they came from!

And let’s be sure to use lots and lots of American taxpayer dollars to do so, just as American taxpayers are forced to underwrite Israel and Zionist warmongering.

By the way, as many Israeli historians have recognized, it’s nothing but propaganda lies of the Israeli government and their American Zionist supporters who call the shots around U.S. Mideast policy, it was the Zionists who kicked the Arabs out of their homeland, not the other way around. Indeed, the early Zionists developed elaborate plans to drive non-Jews from Palestine.

But propaganda rules in the U.S., and all too many have been fooled into believing the same lies you do. Yes, the Zionists started the war to drive the native Arabs from Palestine and set up a self-identified Jewish government there. The Arabs were formerly satisfied to let Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in peace there together, but that wasn’t on the agenda of the Zionist aggressors.

Research the term “dispensationalism.” It was a movement richly financed by Zionists and the British government to fool countless Christians into imagining that supporting a Jewish state in Palestine was somehow advancing Christianity. It worked like a charm.

By the way, can anyone explain why so many latter-day Christians consider the Old Testament — the Torah — to be a holy book? Christians in the Roman era hardly knew of it, instead taking their cues from the Christian gospels, nowadays perversely called the “New Testament,” as though the Christian texts are an afterthought to the Torah.